Resumes & The Gaping Void - Ask HR Wench
Let's face it: looking for a job SUCKS. You know it and I know it. It's not pretty, even for seasoned (or wannabe seasoned) HR pros.
That being said, let's see if we can help a reader out, yo:
I'm a big fan of yours, and I'm also a recent graduate. I earned my Bachelor's degree in English Literature and Criticism, graduating Summa Cum Laude. Right up until two months before I graduated, I had been planning to attend grad school. I found out last-minute that I wasn't going to be receiving a Teaching Assistantship from the two universities I had been accepted to. Because I'm not willing to be buried in $70k worth of extra debt, I'm going to find a job and go to grad chool part-time and closer to home.Darlin', you bet I do.
I've been applying for jobs since late April. I've been on interviews for two different positions. The first company, after 2 interviews, called me to tell me it was down to me and another candidate, but she had more experience. The Hiring Manager wanted to let me know that he and the rest of the team (the second interview was with the heads of 4 departments) were very impressed, and to keep him apprised of how my job search was going. The second company entered a hiring freeze the week after my interview.
These interviews happened the week after I graduated in May, and I haven't heard back from ANY other companies.
I have been sending out applications to 10-15 jobs a week, calling back a week later (where applicable), and still nothing. I am beginning to loathe the welcome pages of Monster, Yahoo! Hot Jobs, and Careerbuilder, and there is something so disheartening about sending applications off into the void, receiving a "thank you for your submission, but don't call us, we'll call you" e-mail, then never hearing from the company again.
I know that the job market sucks right now, and that I've never felt so powerless and depressed in my life.I don't have a very marketable degree, but I have been hoping for something. I haven't even heard back about call center and secretarial jobs.
Wenchie, I know my story isn't unique, especially in this market. You have even been having trouble finding something, so I'm wondering if you have any words of advice and/or encouragement for those of us who are stuck in unemployment land.
First of all, congratulations on completing your degree. That is a huge accomplishment no matter WHAT the subject is and don't let anyone tell you differently. You should be very proud of that darn degree!
Second of all, it sounds like you were a very strong runner up for the position you applied for in May. You know what my question is, don't you? Have you kept the hiring manager apprised of how your job search is going? If not, get on the horn NOW and let him know by asking him how the new hire has turned out and if there are any other positions on the horizon. Use your position as a kick butt runner up to your best advantage. Invitations to keep in touch with a hiring manager hardly ever happen. Trust me.
Now, it sounds like you have been applying for a lot of jobs. This is generally a good idea when you're looking for a job. But do you know what else is a good idea?
1. Figuring out what you're really looking for.
You mentioned call center, secretarial and teaching assistant jobs. You are all over the map. You need to zone in on what you really want and use a laser like, not shotgun, approach. Yes, you're a new grad and your "just" looking for a part time gig. It doesn't matter. If you don't know what you want and feel desperation, recruiters can SMELL it and it smells RANK.
Take a realistic view of your experience, education (and all that it encompasses, not just your major) and what you are drawn to. There are many books and exercises out there that can help. You don't have to trip on peyote and go on a vision quest over it, but try to be as open and honest with yourself as possible
Remember that job you had the summer of your sophomore year in college? You loved it. You were good at it. Target your job search to find part 2 of that job.
2. Networking like crazy.
Tell everyone you know, and even people you don't know, that you are looking for an x, y or z type job. Get on LinkedIn, Twitter, Craigslist, niche job boards (especially those with forums where you can discuss what you're looking for with others), sign up with agencies and do temp and temp to hire work, make business cards and give them to people you chit chat with at the gym, look for jobs in places you wouldn't think they would be. Make it everyone's business to know what you are looking for & to want to help you find it.
3. Getting out of the box & burning that stupid box!
You mentioned the big name job boards. There is more out there than just the big names. For every type of person, job and pet armadillo, there is some type of community on the internet for it. FIND THEM. Want to work for a non-profit? Type in "non profit jobs" into Google. Visit the first few sites that come up. Make a profile and post a resume on Idealist.org and Nonprofitjobs.org. Rinse. Repeat.
There is a lot to this subject - more than I could ever cover in one blog post. In a moment, I'll unleash the readers so we can continue the conversation in the comments section. But before I do that, I'd like to make some book recommendations.
Don't laugh, just trust me: Cover Letters for Dummies and Job Interviews for Dummies are two of the best books I have read (and I've read A LOT and recruited A LOT, too!) on this topic. They are easy to read and have excellent hints, tips and tricks. I haven't read Resumes for Dummies, but I bet that one is good too, as they are all by the same author.
Whatever you do, do not give up and DO NOT judge your worth as a person by the "how easily I can get a good job" stick. You WILL find a job, it just may take longer than you originally planned. Hang in there and let me know how things go.
Readers: what helpful tips do you have for our friend?
*Cross posted on my BlogHer blog*


16 comments:
HR Wench is right -- definitely call that hiring manager who told you to keep him apprised of your job search. We do not say things like that unless we mean it -- call him TODAY.
How about setting up some informational interviews? It's a great way to meet hiring managers and learn about careers that might interest you.
I would suggest that after you know what type of job you want (I completely agree with HR Wench that you need focus) then also start searching for companies and organizations that hire for those positions. Then research the companies and contact them. Even if they have nothing now, they might soon and it can't hurt to talk to them and get your resume in front of them.
My favorite resource is the local branch of your state department of labor. They can look over your resume, do mock interviews, and stuff like that, plus they also have the dirt on jobs in your area! There were a number of times when I'd post jobs with my contact there and she would immediately have someone come to mind. She also would let me know when she had someone that she thought might be a good fit for us even if we didn't have any posted openings. It's your tax dollars at work!
first of all, about your degree. a degree is never a waste and never useless. with some exceptions, such as IT or finance, most people with bachelor's degrees do not work in the same field as their degree. (i know tons of english majors who now work in marketing!)
it's an accomplishment and recruiters know that.
as for the search, don't just apply through the job boards. do some research and see if you can find out who the hiring manager is and forward your resume to them as well.
don't be mistaken -- you should apply the way you're instructed to apply in the ad to show you can follow directions. but showing a little initiative and getting your resume to the hiring manager will also show initiative, among other things.
and wenchie is right. if there is a job you've interviewed for and didn't get, but you think you'd like -- stay in touch. that job might come around again quicker than you think. (this goes for those rejection letters too. don't stalk the HR department, but it won't hurt to stay in touch. i've had jobs filled, the person didn't work out, and we called the person who stayed in touch first -- before placing another ad.)
good luck!
all the best!
deb
This is good advice, especially the part about staying in touch after not getting the job - and **especially** if a company invites you to do so! I wish I'd had the confidence -- and resilience -- to do exactly that a couple of years ago.
Also, think about temping for one of your local placement agencies--sometimes those can turn into permanent, full-time jobs. At least you'll be getting some experience and making contacts. And, have you ever thought about technical writing? Check out www.stc.org--you'll be using your English major and also making good money.
Utilize your alumni association and what ever career services your university provides. They will be asking you for plenty of donations, they have a vested interest in your gainful employment. Buena Suerte!!
AAM - Since you are an actual hiring manager, I'm thrilled we are in agreement!
Lori - Thanks for visiting and commenting! Info interviews can indeed be very helpful, as long as candidates don't get pushy & remember it's "just" an info interview. :)
Minion - Excellent notion! I need to get better at this myself.
'netta - You are BLESSED to have such a fantastic state dept of labor. Not all of them are like that, that is for sure! The last one I dealt with, I had the rep assigned to me applying for my jobs as well as sending me totally unqualified applicants (geez!).
deb - It's always so nice to see you! Your advice is spot on.
Almost - Me too! Live and learn I guess :)
Anon - That is great advice about tech writing. See? This is why I love my readers! You all fill in the gaps for me. Good times.
Kool Aid - Good advice, even if she's not in the same area as her Alma Mater. Use free services...like they are free!
Just a couple of comments to tack on to an excellent post and follow up comments.
1. Make sure that your resume and cover letter aren't stale. I get cover letters addressing our 'business' (we are higher ed) and generic letters and resumes. Since you are a writer, customize and make sure that each submission sounds fresh. It's a ton of work but worth it.
2. Totally concur with FOCUS.
3. If you are looking down on secretarial or administrative support positions, don't. They are terrific ways to get in and get recognized. I personally have taken two admins from other departments and mentored them into professional HR positions.
4. And not all great companies advertise on the job boards. Many (including our local hospitals) don't need to - they independently draw so much to their website that they don't need to advertise (unless it's in their CBA or for immigration purposes). Identify top employers in your area and seek them out.
Good luck. You will find something terrific.
Maven - Thanks! I urged my reader via email to visit your site and contact you about the in's and out's of recruiting in higher ed...since you're not only the HR Maven, but the Higher Ed HR Maven!
And I would be HAPPY to help in any way I can.
I seriously encourage young professionals to consider college/university employers. Salaries may be a bit less but we have kickin' benefits including some unbelievable tuition assistance.
Just a side point, as I agree with most of what's already been said. An English degree IS an asset. I repeat: an English degree IS an asset. Why? 85% of the cover letters I receive have horrendous grammatical mistakes. I see English major + decent grammar and I squeal for the entry level gigs I'm recruiting for. Use it to your advantage!
Anon - Hells yeah, it's an asset. Thanks for the extra UMPH!
I'm the question-asker, and I wanted to thank ALL of you for your insight and advice. I believe my greatest epiphany has been about how my complete lack of focus has been dragging me down. I knew I was all over the place with my applications, but I hadn't actually realized how much it was effecting me. I was unenthusiastic about most of the jobs I was applying for, and I'm sure that came across on paper.
I've now determined to focus my efforts in the direction of academia. I've always been most happy in an academic setting, and it is where I hope to be post-graduate school, as a professor, anyway. Many of the private universities in my area are hiring for administrative/clerical positions, and I think that is an excellent place to start.
Once again, thank you so much (Wenchie included, of course) for taking the time to reply with your thoughtful suggestions!
Lady G - Yay! I'm glad this helped. Please come back around these parts and let us know how things are progressing.
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