April 12, 2008

Off Duty Conduct: For The Most Part, Who Gives A Crap?

Mark Toth at Manpower Employment Blawg wrote about a recent case out of NYC regarding off duty conduct.

Basically, some dude who was President (but not the highest ranking employee) of a company called "Patriarch Partners, LLP" (What. A. Name.) was fired for appearing on "Real Housewives of New York City".

I absolutely LOVE the firm's lawyer's quote as printed by the NY Post, "They found out he was on the show when the promos ran. He's on a show and never mentioned it. Any other company would have fired him on the spot. He also was not performing or bringing in new deal flow" (emphasis mine).

Are you kidding me? Senior execs usually have employment contracts that require "cause" to be found in order for them to be fired. So the "cause" here is appearing on the show but just in case that sounds TOTALLY RIDICULOUS we're going to say he was a poor performer. Of course, we didn't do anything about the whole poor performance thing prior to him appearing on a television show in which he (most likely, I cannot say for certain as I haven't seen it) didn't mention nor claim to represent his company. Oh and by the way, the main reason for him being on the show was to promote a charity that raises money for a disease his sister suffers from.

Nice move Patriarch Partners!

Look. There are plenty of ways off duty conduct can mess with the workplace. Say an employee of yours also works part time as a stripper. Some guys from the Purchasing Department throw a bachelor party off site and hire her to do her thing. This could create some issues. I get it. (I had to deal with those issues when pictures of the event showed up at work, yo!)

But really? Companies don't own their employees. They don't. And they need to stop acting like it. If I lie to my employer and say I'm sick when I'm not, go on a TV show and say "Hi I'm HR Wench and I work for XYZ Company. I think everyone should boycott Pizza Hut because they suck" they have every right to discipline me according to their policies regarding lying and "representing" the company in the media without permission. But if I schedule a vacation, go on Wheel of Fortune and say "Hi I'm HR Wench from Swampland, USA! Big money!" then it is NONE OF THE COMPANY'S DAMN BUSINESS.

And that is all I have to say about that.

5 comments:

Rachel - Employment File 4/12/08 12:44 PM  

I agree 100%. I thought it was so stupid when I heard about it.

Off duty conduct has been something I have been thinking about for a while. You gave black and white examples but I don't think everything is black and white.

What about an employee who's on the news as being involved in an anti-war protest? Or a gay pride parade? Or a neo-nazi rally?

Laurie 4/12/08 4:48 PM  

I was once told that, as a Human Resources professional, I am never off duty.

That is why I am a full-time HR blogger. Might as well be on duty and do something interesting, yo.

HR Wench 4/12/08 5:46 PM  

Rachel - Yes, we have many grey areas in HR and this topic is no exception. If an employee is on the news in an anti-war protest, gay pride parade or (heaven forbid) a neo-nazi rally I think that is THEIR BUSINESS as long as they are not claiming to represent their company (or really, even mentioning the company). Now, some employment contracts for more senior level employees may have clauses regarding certain things and I am totes fine with that. However, it needs to be spelled out and it needs to be reasonable (like in relation to their salary - putting limits on the Waltons makes sense, putting the same on Jack the warehouse dude doesn't).

Laurie - I was told that once as well. A host of situations came to mind that I was sorely tempted to ask about...but I didn't.

S. Caron 4/12/08 6:55 PM  

I have to agree - As long as the employee isn't purporting to be representing the company, then what is the problem? And furthermore, what's so wrong with his appearances? So far -- with one episode left -- there has been nothing earthshattering about him revealed.

Oh wait, he works late. Woo-freakin'-hoo.

peppone 5/24/08 3:13 PM  

yes and I bet that the "Lawyers" where there inhouse contract law employers with less knowledge than I do about employment law.

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